tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post1759713563619258951..comments2023-06-05T11:51:38.383-04:00Comments on Evolutionary Psychiatry: ADHD and Omega 3Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04429177284200775781noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-50447424917628276862011-05-08T02:45:44.987-04:002011-05-08T02:45:44.987-04:00Thanks for this! Would be very helpful for my stud...Thanks for this! Would be very helpful for my study about <a href="http://www.omega3healthtoday.com" rel="nofollow">health supplements</a>. I would recommend this blog site of yours to my fellow classmates and our professors. Great!<br /><br />- Jasmine Howard, USALester Mendezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01745034468809593137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-14438192565796234322011-03-27T03:10:32.357-04:002011-03-27T03:10:32.357-04:00Hi,
I used to teach Paleo based nutrition to Perso...Hi,<br />I used to teach Paleo based nutrition to Personal Trainers (over here in the UK) and studied this area quite heavily.<br />There is another way to view ADHD, and that is to not look at it as a disease, but instead with a view that we are all hard wired slightly differently...some of us who still have a very recent hunter/gatherer gene pool are wired up to be more alert and ready for a hunt, there-for in a modern society can find it difficult to fit in and concentrate. Whilst others who have a good 10,000 years worth of farmers gene pool in them will find it much easier to concentrate in this modern worlds requirements, yet at the same time will have lost many of the genetic ability that enables them to be a good hunter. <br />As you can probably tell..I feel that I fit in to one of those categories much more than the other so maybe my genetic ancestors have only very recently in their history started to become farmers?<br />Had I been born 20 years later (I'm now 43 by the way) I'm almost certain that I would have been labelled with ADHD at school, but 30 or so years ago (thankfully)I was only labelled with being naughty and having difficulty with reading. I was very lucky that I had parents who spent a huge amount of extra time with me every evening to ensure I had the skills necessary to get through school.<br />I hope this post does'nt end up sounding like a rant, but my interest in diet/health/adhd led me to read many books and I believe there is a strong connection (in evolutionary terms) between many of them.<br />A guy called Thom Hartmann (an expert in this field) has written many books on the subject, one of them called "Attention deficit disorder - a different perception" is a must and very interesting read for anyone interested in this subject.<br />I'd be really interested to hear your views if you had any time to read this book.<br />I'm contactable on malc@thecabin.uk.com if anyone wishes to discuss further and I hope this post is useful and could possibly lead to further research.<br />Cheers<br /><br />Malcmalcolminneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12944740614750329679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-88052231186695818342011-03-22T05:10:18.074-04:002011-03-22T05:10:18.074-04:00John - I agree. You might want to look at my schi...John - I agree. You might want to look at my schizophrenia round up blog post - also ADHD and mom's serotonin deficiency (check the map - I can copy/paste into the comment field on the iPad with the links)<br /><br />Paul - thanks for the links - that really is an amazing study, and yet I never heard anything about it, and it came out when I was in residency. Feed prisoners a multi with some minerals and fish oil, and behavior improves, striking, eh? I have a friend who is a forensic psychiatrist - I'll definitely be sending that one to her. (though I'm hopeful,she knows about it)<br /><br />Thanks, Jerry!<br /><br />Melinda - the DHA and EPA are important<br /><br />Peter - you are an exceptionally wise person :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04429177284200775781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-46139712714883692622011-03-22T03:13:52.785-04:002011-03-22T03:13:52.785-04:00"What do you think - is a Macbook is really w..."What do you think - is a Macbook is really worth it?"<br /><br />You know you want to do this. There is no route back!<br /><br />PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-61766105552014687952011-03-21T15:47:38.345-04:002011-03-21T15:47:38.345-04:00Excellent blog post. I have adhd and my phsychiat...Excellent blog post. I have adhd and my phsychiatrist actually prescribed omega-3 supplements for me. I thought it was a bit odd, but there isn't much time to ask questions during a 10-15 minute med check, so I didn't say anything. And honestly, I never really took them. Now I have more of an understanding of why my doctor chose to prescribe them...now I'll take them.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16006908805229243499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-83905975549367775712011-03-21T11:53:58.489-04:002011-03-21T11:53:58.489-04:00MacBook worth it? I've had several MacBook Pro...MacBook worth it? I've had several MacBook Pro type of laptops and I switched to MacBook Air (11 inch). I never looked back. I also have two PC laptops which I try to avoid using. That should tell you something. I strongly recommend the MBA unless you're doing lots of audio or video editing. Have a blog about this: http://rodeocleanair.comUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15994652306576409575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-40544305553892274522011-03-21T10:03:13.037-04:002011-03-21T10:03:13.037-04:00Thanks Emily. I can't claim to be an authority...Thanks Emily. I can't claim to be an authority on patterns of offending and nutrition but there is quite a bit on the topic already. Bernard Gesch's study in the British Journal of Psychiatry can be viewed here for free:<br />http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/full/181/1/22<br />From what I gather there is some evidence to suggest that people with ADHD are disproportionately more likely to having dealings with the criminal justice system as per this document recently published in BMC Psychiatry (thank heavens for open-access!):<br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3050801/pdf/1471-244X-11-32.pdf<br />I don't want to sweep everyone with ADHD with the same brush I might add (many people with ADHD do not end up anywhere near the clink).<br />I suppose the suggestion is that those with ADHD (or a sub-group) who exhibit offending behaviour might benefit from better nutrition for their ADHD symptoms which might then have a knock-on effect on whether they offend or not. Obviously this takes no account of the personal, psychological and social factors why people offend in the first-place particularly in these times of austerity (which is itself a considerable motivator of offending behaviour). <br />Quite a puzzle.Paul Whiteleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14288851488012254897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-1683493460531762112011-03-21T00:20:17.196-04:002011-03-21T00:20:17.196-04:00I think the angle of neolithic diseases of the mot...I think the angle of neolithic diseases of the mother pre pregnancy and during the pregnancy needs looking into. We in medicine have always looked for clues to diseases in the host who has them. And for this disease we have not had much luck. DNA methylation and acetylation of histone proteins in Mom with low DHA levels and low levels of vitamin D maybe the perfect epigenetic storm for many of the diseases we see in neurobiology. Epigenetic mechanisms include DNA methylation, histone modifications, nucleosome repositioning, higher order chromatin remodeling, non-coding RNAs, and RNA and DNA editing. RNA is centrally involved in directing these processes, implying that the transcriptional state of the cell is the primary determinant of epigenetic memory. It is clear that the epigenetic state is a central regulator of cellular development and activation. The epigenome is influenced by environmental factors throughout life. Enter neolithic agents of disease. Nutritional factors can have profound effects on the expression of specific genes by epigenetic modification, and these may be passed on to subsequent generations with potentially detrimental effects. <br /><br />Dr. K<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18673005johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126132841611727249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-81887870051525429332011-03-20T21:15:03.415-04:002011-03-20T21:15:03.415-04:00Mrs Ed - thank you for the links! And I think, ye...Mrs Ed - thank you for the links! And I think, yes, in individual cases omega 3 can make a huge difference - as a population just adding fish oil to the mix is likely to be more a preventative measure for many diseases than a curative one.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04429177284200775781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-68166929556601671702011-03-20T21:05:29.035-04:002011-03-20T21:05:29.035-04:00(too many grammar errors and spelling issues! Bla...(too many grammar errors and spelling issues! Blame the iPad)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04429177284200775781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-72850372948128549632011-03-20T21:02:42.468-04:002011-03-20T21:02:42.468-04:00I think I'm decided on my new machine.
Dan ...I think I'm decided on my new machine. <br /><br />Dan - it really is striking. Sometimes I can't help but look at the USDA recs for toddlers and shiver. One of the reasons I picked the current preschool is because I supply all the food she gets. Teacher told me that none of the kids in her class has food allergies. That must be a reportable event, nowadays.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04429177284200775781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-72808108681581080592011-03-20T20:52:17.627-04:002011-03-20T20:52:17.627-04:00Paul - there was an interesting news article in Sc...Paul - there was an interesting news article in Science about prisoner research and micronutrient/omega 3 supplementation. The study appeared to be ongoing but I need to look for some actual papers. It was noted that the young men's diet prior to incarceration tended to completely lack fish. ZERO, and magnesium amounts were also minuscule. Very interesting.<br /><br />Sackot - I really like Seneff's articles (especially like her Alzheimer's one). I'm not sure I buy the abnormally efficient glucose metabolism mechanism of ADHD - I think Neolithic agents of disease combined with genetic vulnerability to the resulting inflammation makes more sense. I certainly agree with her contention that the sugar angle has not been studied - it was attempted with small trials of sugar compared to aspartame, and never really followed up after that. One, no clue how you double blind aspartame vs sugar as kids would certainly notice the difference, and aspartame has been linked (though I haven't looked at the papers myself) to hyperactivity... In short, I think the sugar issue was dismissed out of hand way to early - of course, if you don't eat sugar and you don't eat fat and you can't eat more than 30% protein, what do you eat? The potato diet? I guess. Seneff and I have somewhat different ideas about the pathophysiology, but either way, we recommend the same sort of diets!<br /><br />(oh, that link didn't work for me for some reason, but it is easy to fond googling seneff, MIT, ADHD)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04429177284200775781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-92080415461637539762011-03-20T20:35:24.885-04:002011-03-20T20:35:24.885-04:00i have now a macbook air. it is the finest piece o...i have now a macbook air. it is the finest piece of computing equipment i've ever used. this includes many that i built myself in the past and many supermachines back when i worked in computer science.<br /><br />as to the diet and adhd. hagglet #2 is a bit of a rabblerouser. not so much add, but just ON all the time and rather impulsive. in other words, a normal boy. however, i can tell you, with a fair degree of accuracy, what they were eating at school, when it was high gluten and when there was PUFA. it was the same with #1. if they get all whacked on gluten grains and veggie oil they are F&$#ing lunatics. if i feed them grassfed, gluten free, etc. they stay pretty chill. this year, we started exclusively sending #1 with lunch from home at school and her behavior is LOADS better.<br /><br />there is nothing about neolithic dietary agents that would surprise me anymore.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08017283769321903865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-18502717423343148972011-03-20T19:25:56.084-04:002011-03-20T19:25:56.084-04:00> ADHD strikes young and sticks around. Therefo...> ADHD strikes young and sticks around. Therefore it is a<br />> tough disorder that is in part hard-wired, and in my mind,<br />> *just* O3 supplementation is unlikely to be of much benefit.<br /><br />Just wondered what you think about Stephanie Seneff's speculations<br />on ADHD?<br /><br />http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/adhd_low_fat_diet.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-38900956625656005952011-03-20T17:00:09.610-04:002011-03-20T17:00:09.610-04:00w-3 (apologies for the latin 'omega' but c...w-3 (apologies for the latin 'omega' but can't find a way to post Greek characters) like many things is an area crying out for some large-scale, good quality trials for lots of different things. Paul Amminger's 2007 study of w-3 for autism is a good start (for autism) and adds to the various studies looking at ADHD, dyslexa, developmental co-ordination disorder/dyspraxia, etc. Problem with many of these studies is the different formulations and dosages used and assessed (including other things added to the dosage form like excipients such as vitamin E - any effect?), making it difficult to compare what ratio of EPA:DHA is best suited and the optimal dose (if there is universally one). Also the other omegas (w-9) in olive oil for example and their impact need more attention. I think also as a population we are all pretty deficient in w-3 given our modern day foodfests. Assuming we were once an aquatic species later evolving to reside near the sea as early hunter-gatherers, it makes perfect sense that we should all have a good nutritional intake of w-3 also knowing how such fats impact on things like neuronal development. One final point: there is some preliminary evidence that some of the more shadowy parts of society (i.e. crime) might have a link to poor diet and fatty acid deficiency (see work of Bernard Gesch and co at Oxford University circa. 2002).Paul Whiteleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14288851488012254897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-64616969473839242702011-03-20T14:02:15.236-04:002011-03-20T14:02:15.236-04:00Once you go Mac...
Love my MacBook. If you can sw...Once you go Mac...<br /><br />Love my MacBook. If you can swing it, the 15" pro with the faster processor, most RAM and matte screen is worth it. Though my 13" is just fine and handles everything beautifully.Katherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14467976631871356999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-85857780515319945792011-03-20T13:56:53.422-04:002011-03-20T13:56:53.422-04:00Great post. Although not ADHD, Omega-3 supplementa...Great post. Although not ADHD, Omega-3 supplementation was the first thing we tried for our son's autism and we were quite surprised. He was still autistic but he started to have eye contact with us, his babbling sounded more normal, etc. So I spent lunchbreaks digging in PubMed at all of the conditions omega-3 has been of some help. It helps with so many inflammation related issues/illnesses. I have a few links (just scroll past the post to the links if you are interested).<br /> http://mrsedsresearchandrecipes.blogspot.com/search/label/Omega-3<br /><br />http://mrsedsresearchandrecipes.blogspot.com/p/foodmental-health.htmlMrs. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02144247274657295271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-10852222904337274412011-03-20T13:46:30.970-04:002011-03-20T13:46:30.970-04:00No official time out I'm aware of, though blog...No official time out I'm aware of, though blogger can be a pain - whenever I put through a longish one I always copy it to the clipboard before I post it just in case. Wish I started with wordpress but too late now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04429177284200775781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-18566494777429433542011-03-20T13:11:24.614-04:002011-03-20T13:11:24.614-04:00damn.. just lost another comment post on this blog...damn.. just lost another comment post on this blog. is there a comment time-out or something here?qualiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12612054480291962053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3045634714760830992.post-29718838776365542012011-03-20T11:14:23.286-04:002011-03-20T11:14:23.286-04:00I went Mac in 94 and never turned back. Love '...I went Mac in 94 and never turned back. Love 'em! I've tended to replace mine every 3 or so years just because of the change in technology.<br /><br />Here's an article I found that has some good info re the different Mac platforms:<br /><br />http://www.pbcentral.com/blog/2010/10/27/macbook-air-vs-13%E2%80%9D-macbook-pro-vs-macbook-vs-ipad-which-is-the-ideal-mobile-computer/<br /><br />I just got my iPad2, so am planning on picking up one of those cases with the keyboard embedded for travel purposes. <br /><br />My current Macbook is a little over two years old, so I'll probably not upgrade the laptop soon, but you never know ... new tech is always calling ;).Beth@WeightMavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03821749502002515139noreply@blogger.com